Subject: Re: Pre-columbian Europian visits to Americas. From: email@example.com (Yuri Kuchinsky) Date: 1997/05/07 Message-ID: <firstname.lastname@example.org> Newsgroups: sci.archaeology Fcattus (email@example.com) wrote: : No you're not a "huge fool who should shut up," or whatever you wrote, but : you're a person liable to get a lot of unwanted info! This topic has been : beaten to death---here and elsewhere, so you should look for some of it. Dear John, Sure, this topic hasn't just "been invented". And many wacky claims _have_ been made in the past by overenthusiastic proponents. But beaten to death? Well, not exactly, considering that quite a bit of new research has appeared in the last few years. And support for theories suggesting transoceanic contacts in ancient past often has come from some rather unexpected sources recently, such as researchers discovering traces of strange plants in Egyptian mummies... : Check out the books by Ken Feder and Steve Williams for skeptical surveys : of most of thwese claims. And the 1961 (?) Lost Tribes and Sunken : Continents, by Wauchope is still excellent. I've published a lot on this : topic. Basically, the hyperdiffusionist cases almost all fall apart when : looked at closely Almost, but surely not always. How about this bit of information dealing with calendrics. This comes from the scholar whose research is key in this area of comparing the New and the Old World astronomy and astrology. [begin quote] >From David H. Kelley, AN ESSAY ON PRE-COLUMBIAN CONTACTS BETWEEN THE AMERICAS AND OTHER AREAS, in RACE, DISCOURSE, AND THE ORIGIN OF THE AMERICAS, Smithsonian, 1995 Comparative mythology is tied to comparative religious studies, to the role of astronomy in ancient religion, and to comparative calendrics. All such comparisons involve partial systemic correspondences. Such evidence is quite acceptable to linguists, for they are constantly dealing with parts of systems that have themselves frequently undergone regular and specifiable changes. Such partial systemic correspondences are disliked by archaeologists... (p. 118) I have done a great deal of work on Mesoamerican and Eurasian parallels in calendar system. These parallels fall entirely in the realm of partial systemic correspondences. Of the day-names of the Mesoamerican calendar, all have parallels in one of four Eurasian systems, three of which are attested in northern India. (p. 119) [end quote] Any comments on this? Do you really think all these clear parallels could be attributed to some weird co-incidence? And what about the famous "rabbit-on-the-moon" parallels? What would be the chance that two cultures on different sides of the ocean both will see -- independently? -- a rabbit on the moon pounding medicinal drugs in a pestle? Best regards, Yuri. Yuri Kuchinsky | "Where there is the Tree of Knowledge, there -=- | is always Paradise: so say the most ancient in Toronto | and the most modern serpents." F. Nietzsche ----- my webpage is for now at: http://www.io.org/~yuku ----- _________________________________________________________________Click here to go one level up in the directory.