Subject:      Re: Origins of Bronze Age
From: (Yuri Kuchinsky)
Date:         1997/05/30
Message-ID:   <5mn3to$gg$>
Newsgroups:   sci.archaeology,soc.culture.thai

Dale Light ([22] wrote:

: It's not my field, but I seem to remember, about 25 years ago, some
excitement : about VERY early bronze artifacts from Cambodia. I even saw
an exhibit about it :  at the University Museum in Philadelphia. I believe
that the type site was cal : led Bad Chaing or something like that and
that the artifacts dated from about 3 : 500 BC. I also believe that the
expedition that was working on the site was fun : ded by Harvard and the
University of Pennsylvania, but was forced to abandon th : eir efforts due
to political disturbances. Hope this is of some assistance.  : Sincerely,
: Dale Light


Here are a couple of files with relevant info I found on the Web. The
first file tells us that the dating for Thailand was considered
controversial at some time. But I believe it was confirmed by more
testing. The second file tells us about early bronze in the Philippines,
and confirms the early date for Ban Chiang.

Best regards,


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[first file:]

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                            THE FIRST METALWORK

        Until recently scholars believed almost universally that the
     development of metalwork techniques began in Mesopotamia in about
   3500-3000 BC. and spread to the rest of the world from there. However
    in 1974 a discovery in Thailand threw doubt on that theory. American
       and Thai archaeologist working at the village of Ban Chiang in
      northeast Thailand found graves containing a bronze spearhead, a
    bronze anklet and bronze bracelets, and archaeologists believe that
   the objects date from 3600 BC. If the date, which is controversial, is
   correct, the find suggests that the bronze age was well established in
      Thailand at that time, several hundred years before it reached a
                       similar stage in Mesopotamia.

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Subject:      [10]Philippine Prehistory Update
From:         [11][24] (Paul (Kekai) Manansala)
Date:         1996/12/10
Newsgroups:   soc.culture.filipino

I got my complimentary copies of the National Museum Annual Report
recently and there's some interesting stuff going on for
prehistory buffs.


An older but fascinating find comes from the Bolobok Rockshelter
excavation in Tawi Tawi.  The work was done by Wilfredo P. Ronquillo,
Kazuhiko Tanaka, Rey Santiago and Shijun Asato.  The most interesting
find comes from what is described as a "late occupational phase", which
is dated to 3,190 B.C.  Among the artifacts found at this level were
a socketed bronze adze and opaque glass bead.   This marks a much earlier
age for bronze in the Philippines even if this object was introduced
by an intruding element.  The oldest dating for bronze from the Near
East is about 3,000 B.C.;  2,000 B.C. for Mohenjo Daro in South Asia,
and the oldest dated bronze is 3,600 B.C. from Ban Chiang in Thailand.
It will be interesting to see if this date for bronze can be verified
from other in situ finds.

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