Subject: Re: ancient navigation (was: American map on Phoenician coins? From: firstname.lastname@example.org (Yuri Kuchinsky) Date: 1997/07/01 Message-ID: <email@example.com> Newsgroups: sci.archaeology,sci.archaeology.mesoamerican,talk.philosophy.misc Paul J. Gans (firstname.lastname@example.org) wrote: ... : Ah yes. That is the point, isn't it? : : The Great Hyperdiffusionist War, which took place in this newsgroup : about two years ago was largely about this very point. It was : pointed out over and over again that the hyperdiffusionist point : was NOT that Europeans benefited from New World cultural imports, : but it *always* went the other way. They too kept screaming : that we, the non-hyper group, were Eurocentric, just as Yuri : is now. Paul, This is false and misleading. I expect nothing less from you. My research has focused for a long time on Asia-America connections. I maintain that cultural innovations went BOTH WAYS! In agriculture, the innovations went PREDOMINANTLY to Asia. Here's a _partial_ list of American crops that were cited by various researchers as possibly having travelled FROM America pre-Columbus: maize sunflower grain amaranth hibiscus pineapple sweet potato chili guava prickle poppy annona kapok cassava squash peanut tamarinds I don't have complete references or details for all of those plants, yet I'm pretty sure some sort of cases have been made for each. I'm sure this list can be expanded. And one more thing. I'm not a diffusionist. I have little interest in "diffusionism". Although previously I've been associated with this term, now I reject this designation. From what I understand (and I don't claim to be too knowledgeable about these abstract theoretical issues), "Diffusionism" is an extremely complex theoretical position in anthropology that purports to postulate certain "truths" about human nature, psychology, and the nature of cultural change. While I'm interested in the above, I certainly don't claim to have answers to these guestions, and, moreover, I have no ambition to resolve them. I can say with certainty that my main interests lie elsewhere, and I have no opinion about whether or not the diffusionists' answers to these questions are better than others'. My only real interest is history plain and simple: what happened in the past. That's all. I thought that I needed to clarify this for you and others. Yuri. Yuri Kuchinsky | "Where there is the Tree of Knowledge, there -=- | is always Paradise: so say the most ancient in Toronto | and the most modern serpents." F. Nietzsche ----- my webpage is for now at: http://www.io.org/~yuku ----- _________________________________________________________________Click here to go one level up in the directory.