Subject:      Re: ancient coins found in America
From:         yuku@mail.trends.ca (Yuri Kuchinsky)
Date:         1997/07/23
Message-ID:   <5r54gm$838$2@trends.ca>
Newsgroups:   sci.archaeology.mesoamerican,sci.archaeology,rec.collecting.coins
		,soc.history

<[22]buck@shuksan.math.niu.edu> J. B. Stephen (Buck) wrote in
<5r0cjk$kbd$1@gannett.math.niu.edu>

        ...

> To disagree with Epstein, and defend your assertion of the pre-Columbian
> nature of the coin, you must answer the following questions:  1) Where
> is the evidence for pre-Columbian ironworking by aboriginal americans?
> I.e., where did the nails come from.  2) Where is the evidence of use
> and manufacture of brass buttons by pre-Columbian americans?  3) Where
> is the evidence of glass bead manufacture by these pre-Columbians?  (I
> could be wrong here, but isn't red glass relatively difficult to
> manufacture?)

All right, Buck, let me clarify what I meant. There're two possibilities,
i.e. the burial is either precolumbian or postcolumbian. What I'm saying
is that it can well be precolumbian. Where did all the other objects come
from? From the same source as the coin! Perhaps there was a Roman ship in
the area, and these object came together with the coin? This is simply a
hypothesis, and it is very easy to test. Simply submit these objects to
lab testing... This hasn't been done.

> 4) Why does a pre-Columbian provenence of the coin increase its value to
> the Iroquois owner?

Very simple. Bronze coins were plentiful in postcolumbian period. They
wouldn't have been of special value. For a Native man, the design on the
coin, or the fact that it is Roman would be of no special interest,
presumably. Why would that Native man have been interested in Roman
history?

The burial was not Christian, and this should indicate that the man buried
was no special friend of the missionary.

In any case, that the coin came from the missionary is speculation pure
and simple. Why my speculation is worse than Epstein's speculation?
Testing the finds would remove all speculation...

Regards,

Yuri.

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