Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 12:08:04 -0500 From: firstname.lastname@example.org Cc: email@example.com Subject: Re: Order of Acts/Luke It is obvious that Lk is primarily interested in the very Hellenistic image of the theios aner, the travelling Miracle-Man. All his good guys are miracle men. They cure diseases, perform miracles, make impressive speeches, have wonderful escapes from prison, have semidivine ancestry, and so on. This is not the image of the Historical Paul that most people get. This, to the contrary, is he image of the opponents of Paul. So Lk can be seen in a sense as a victory of the opponents of Paul. What Loisy is essentially saying is that the Proto-Lk, the writing to Theophilus, was not in this mode. It was less oriented towards the miracle-man, and it did not have the divine birth story. So, in a sense, what Loisy was saying back then is confirmed by modern scholarship. His early Jesus movement tradition, as transmitted by the Proto-Lk, fits nicely with at least one branch of the Jesus movement, Mack-like sparse and cynic-like itinerant prophets announcing the teachings of Wisdom and the approaching End of the World, and calling all to repentance. They were not miracle men. I write this by the way of introduction to the rest of this reply. Re: "the Great Event" The End of the World was The Thing #1 at the time. The Main Focus. We know it is all over Paul. Nobody is really in doubt about what the expected Great Event was for early Christians. And it wasn't the Pentecost, certainly, except in Lk. What Lk thinks is a minority view in the NT. Yes, I understand that these theories intrude to a certain extent on the territory that Steve Davies considers his own, i.e. Spirit possessions and such. And yet I don't see why this should be so. He's working basically in the area of the miracle-men = healers. This certainly goes back early enough in the history of Jesus movement, since we know that the opponents of Paul were miracle-men. This may also go back to the Historical Jesus. This was definitely one strand in the early movement -- _among others_. But let's not go overboard with this... As far as I can see we can discern about 4 basic typologies in early Christianity. There were the James people, faithful to the Law. (Thomas-people were probably at least in part an off-shoot of these.) There were the Q-people. (Quite similar to the "John the Baptist people" -- an odd bunch, if indeed they existed as more than a footnote in the history of the movement). There were the Paul people. There were the Peter people, most likely the closest to the miracle-man type. "Gnostic" types were also there somewhere hovering in the wings (perhaps straddling a few typological boundaries). So the general picture was far from simple.Click here to go one level up in the directory.